posted 10-03-2003 04:01 PM               

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Originally posted by Denounced:
Answer you for what. You asked for prayer for your organization and I went in the opposite direction. If you can't take it, I'm sorry. I am not going to answer your question, because there is nothing to it. I also refuse one who uses such a foul language as yours. Now that's love! Ye! it's on greekchat, or someone else is using your handle, although the profiles match pretty good. Anyway, I show love by putting my arm around someone and consoling them. I also show love by rebuking one for doing wrong, as I have been rebuked before as well. Jesus, Paul, Peter, John the Baptist, etc. all used the tough love approach. Some were also on the receiving end.

I think you need to read the whole New Testament. If you have, I do not see how you could have missed the tough love and harsh, but righteous judgments of God and men of God. Paul made a man blind by the power of God. Is that love? Paul excommunicated a man from church. Is that love? I could go on and on, but I want you to read and find it for yourself, IF YOU desire.

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You need medication...

posted 10-03-2003 04:04 PM               

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Originally posted by baldcondor:
Let us re-iterate the issue . . . and correct me if I am wrong . . Monet claims there is no pervasiveness to hazing, or at least dangerous hazing, at all, and the national organization decertifies the rare chapters that get caught . . .

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posted 10-08-2003 06:03 PM               

I mean, you would expect the BBB to do something to a business that broke the rules, and do it publicly. Kind of like a sanitation grade for a restaurant. If a restaurant has "B" grade, chances are their business will hurt.

posted 10-14-2003 03:18 PM               

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Originally posted by Denounced:
I agree myself. The point is there are not enough good apples to report hazing incidences. Instead of basing it on GLO rules in place, greeks set their own standards. As a former greek, the standard is no coma-no kill, no responsibility. The bottom line is that sissy greeks don't have the courage to make their organizations great in the sight of the public, especially by coming out from under the shadow of hazing. They are unwilling to deal with the criminals as such, CRIMINALS. But let a non-member wear their letters, or perpetrate as being a member. Hazing is not even the word for what can happen to a "PERP".

I mean, you would expect the BBB to do something to a business that broke the rules, and do it publicly. Kind of like a sanitation grade for a restaurant. If a restaurant has "B" grade, chances are their business will hurt.

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posted 11-23-2003 04:01 AM               

Also, not all org's are out to kill its members, this is looking bad for the rest of us here. I know plenty of AKA's who pledge and they are fine, along with myself.

If the people who are making you care about you and your well being, then you should be fine. BUT ONLY YOU CAN MAKE YOUR PROCESS.

Sorry, thats how I feel and I think there is nothing wrong with pledging...for those of us who did pledge, and did it the right way....you understand your process.

posted 11-23-2003 05:57 PM            

Much love to AKA. I have seen and met some very wondeful women who do great things as a result of the support their sisterhood brings to them.

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posted 11-12-2004 03:06 PM               

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Originally posted by Denounced:
Of course making them public would help, but you are talking about organizations that thrive off of secrecy. Now some BGLO's have started exposing chapters and individuals who haze. Delta Sigma Theta is one. I do not remember the other. I believe it's Omega Psi Phi.

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posted 11-14-2004 01:52 PM               

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Originally posted by Denounced:
I dare not pray for the madness to continue. If AKA/AKA's really want to do something about it, they can, but secrecy, loyalty, and ignorance won't allow it. The sorority is TRULY not willing to do what it takes to get rid of this large problem of hazing. It is not a few and far between occurrence and greeks know it. I pray for a conviction of those and ALL who knew and greater exposure of greeks who are doing such. I pray more so for their repentance and getting saved regardless of conviction.

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posted 12-23-2004 04:11 PM            

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Originally posted by blueice_987:
As I read about the history of AKA and come to know about their achievements and awards.
From my experience, why is that AKA's think that they are the prettiest? A friend of mine joined AKA's just to fit in within the stereotype. She told me " I joined AKA's because I am a pretty light skin girl with long hair." That is sad to me because that is not what a true AKA is.

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posted 02-16-2005 07:12 PM            

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Originally posted by mightymouse94:
Frozen - Frat, thank you for explaining what should be obvious. EVERY organization has a sterotype, but you would think with all the college education obtained some would be able to go to that higher level of thinking that was susposed to have been taught.
Alpha Kappa Alpha settled in the lawsuit with the families, which should say something about the families. If they felt that they could have won the case they would have went to court. Now that in no way clears the actions of the members who hazed the girls. THEY WERE WRONG!!! However, where is the blame for these girls!!! There is no way that I would allow anyone to do something to me which endanger my life, and prevent me from taking care of my son; which was the case for one of the girls. Best believe I love my organization, but I am IN LOVE with my son. NO GREEK LETTERS should be that important that a mother would leave their child and subject themselves to such treatment. I feel the most for the child who lost his mother, because HE wasn't her priority - it was three greek letters instead

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posted 02-16-2005 07:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Denounced:
When you think of a stereotype, the fact is that it is porbably true. The light skinned AKA thing, TRUE. According to who, AKA's who pledged in the 1970's admit that the paper bag test existed.

Who settled? You always sue for more than you intend to receive? If the lawyers said settle, then why take it to trial? Did AKA admit any responsibility as a part of the settlement? I guess it will be some time before the REAL truth comes out.

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posted 02-17-2005 12:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Denounced:
Doing what you hate. Biblically exposing you all for the frauds you are by showing how much of the world your organizations are as well. Let's get real. Stopping hazing is a moral and godly issue. You bring your immoral opinions to the table versus Biblical truth. Who will win? The Word always wins. Since you bring this up, read you Bible about what the Apostle Paul and James say about the coexistence of Christians and the world. Hazing is not the only issue I deal with on a regular basis. It just so happens that I am about to rip it up in a newspaper article about what Black groups have helped or hurt the Black community. To let you know that I am fair and balnced, the only Black organization to help the community are the predominately Black churches sold out to Jesus Christ. The ones who are hurting the community are the liberal Black churches, the NAACP, Black muslim movement and .............. Well you know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am going to be writing how these organizations have direct ties to gross immoralities, caring nothing for their fellow brother or sister of color.

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posted 02-17-2005 12:45 PM            

Also, you're doing the same thing that a 70-year-old white woman on an elevator might do if you get on. That is cover or protect her purse. It's called profiling and stereotyping. Fueled by hatred and ignorance. You are against your own people who try to do the right thing. If not, then your list would have been comprised of dope dealers, gang bangers, murderers, rapists, etc. and the injustice done with the black victims. Instead, you go after groups who have put blood, sweat and tears behind bettering the black community. My sorority is filled with women who marched and fought throughout the civil rights movement. If they hadn't stood for what they did, you may not have the ability (or right) to things you take for granted everyday. BGLO founders were relentless trailblazers and you should be proud that our people are still being educated and carrying on what they began.

Granted, there are a few members in each group who made some bad choices. That's life. I know of people who call themselves Preachers, Deacons, Ministers and men of God, but they cheat, drink and use drugs, abuse women etc. This didn't cause me to stop going to church or start a revolution against all men of God.

posted 02-17-2005 01:50 PM               

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Originally posted by Denounced:
Doing what you hate. Biblically exposing you all for the frauds you are by showing how much of the world your organizations are as well. Let's get real. Stopping hazing is a moral and godly issue. You bring your immoral opinions to the table versus Biblical truth. Who will win? The Word always wins. Since you bring this up, read you Bible about what the Apostle Paul and James say about the coexistence of Christians and the world. Hazing is not the only issue I deal with on a regular basis. It just so happens that I am about to rip it up in a newspaper article about what Black groups have helped or hurt the Black community. To let you know that I am fair and balnced, the only Black organization to help the community are the predominately Black churches sold out to Jesus Christ. The ones who are hurting the community are the liberal Black churches, the NAACP, Black muslim movement and .............. Well you know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am going to be writing how these organizations have direct ties to gross immoralities, caring nothing for their fellow brother or sister of color.

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posted 02-17-2005 02:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Denounced:
Doing what you hate. Biblically exposing you all for the frauds you are by showing how much of the world your organizations are as well. Let's get real. Stopping hazing is a moral and godly issue. You bring your immoral opinions to the table versus Biblical truth. Who will win? The Word always wins. Since you bring this up, read you Bible about what the Apostle Paul and James say about the coexistence of Christians and the world. Hazing is not the only issue I deal with on a regular basis. It just so happens that I am about to rip it up in a newspaper article about what Black groups have helped or hurt the Black community. To let you know that I am fair and balnced, the only Black organization to help the community are the predominately Black churches sold out to Jesus Christ. The ones who are hurting the community are the liberal Black churches, the NAACP, Black muslim movement and .............. Well you know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am going to be writing how these organizations have direct ties to gross immoralities, caring nothing for their fellow brother or sister of color.

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posted 02-27-2005 12:01 AM               

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Originally posted by Alum&Advisor:
To all you who think that hazing builds sisterhoods and brotherhoods - tell that to the AKA pledges who died as a result of a hazing incident.

Hazing is a devisive and dangerous practice, both mentally and physically. Those who believe in hazing most often suffer from low self-esteem and lack the fortitude to stand up for decency.

Most Greek organizations were founded to promote the ideals of brotherhood and sisterhood - respect, knowledge, love, strength of mind and character. By hazing, you are rejecting these ideals and missions and the brotherhoods and sisterhoods you claim to strengthen.

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posted 02-27-2005 12:03 AM               

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Originally posted by Alum&Advisor:
To all you who think that hazing builds sisterhoods and brotherhoods - tell that to the AKA pledges who died as a result of a hazing incident.

Hazing is a devisive and dangerous practice, both mentally and physically. Those who believe in hazing most often suffer from low self-esteem and lack the fortitude to stand up for decency.

Most Greek organizations were founded to promote the ideals of brotherhood and sisterhood - respect, knowledge, love, strength of mind and character. By hazing, you are rejecting these ideals and missions and the brotherhoods and sisterhoods you claim to strengthen.

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posted 02-27-2005 12:07 AM               

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Originally posted by Alum&Advisor:
To all you who think that hazing builds sisterhoods and brotherhoods - tell that to the AKA pledges who died as a result of a hazing incident.

Hazing is a devisive and dangerous practice, both mentally and physically. Those who believe in hazing most often suffer from low self-esteem and lack the fortitude to stand up for decency.

Most Greek organizations were founded to promote the ideals of brotherhood and sisterhood - respect, knowledge, love, strength of mind and character. By hazing, you are rejecting these ideals and missions and the brotherhoods and sisterhoods you claim to strengthen.

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posted 02-27-2005 12:09 AM               

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Originally posted by Alum&Advisor:
To all you who think that hazing builds sisterhoods and brotherhoods - tell that to the AKA pledges who died as a result of a hazing incident.

Hazing is a devisive and dangerous practice, both mentally and physically. Those who believe in hazing most often suffer from low self-esteem and lack the fortitude to stand up for decency.

Most Greek organizations were founded to promote the ideals of brotherhood and sisterhood - respect, knowledge, love, strength of mind and character. By hazing, you are rejecting these ideals and missions and the brotherhoods and sisterhoods you claim to strengthen.

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posted 02-27-2005 12:10 AM               

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Originally posted by Alum&Advisor:
To all you who think that hazing builds sisterhoods and brotherhoods - tell that to the AKA pledges who died as a result of a hazing incident.

Hazing is a devisive and dangerous practice, both mentally and physically. Those who believe in hazing most often suffer from low self-esteem and lack the fortitude to stand up for decency.

Most Greek organizations were founded to promote the ideals of brotherhood and sisterhood - respect, knowledge, love, strength of mind and character. By hazing, you are rejecting these ideals and missions and the brotherhoods and sisterhoods you claim to strengthen.

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posted 02-27-2005 12:11 AM               

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Originally posted by Alum&Advisor:
To all you who think that hazing builds sisterhoods and brotherhoods - tell that to the AKA pledges who died as a result of a hazing incident.

Hazing is a devisive and dangerous practice, both mentally and physically. Those who believe in hazing most often suffer from low self-esteem and lack the fortitude to stand up for decency.

Most Greek organizations were founded to promote the ideals of brotherhood and sisterhood - respect, knowledge, love, strength of mind and character. By hazing, you are rejecting these ideals and missions and the brotherhoods and sisterhoods you claim to strengthen.

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posted 02-27-2005 12:13 AM               

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Originally posted by Alum&Advisor:
To all you who think that hazing builds sisterhoods and brotherhoods - tell that to the AKA pledges who died as a result of a hazing incident.

Hazing is a devisive and dangerous practice, both mentally and physically. Those who believe in hazing most often suffer from low self-esteem and lack the fortitude to stand up for decency.

Most Greek organizations were founded to promote the ideals of brotherhood and sisterhood - respect, knowledge, love, strength of mind and character. By hazing, you are rejecting these ideals and missions and the brotherhoods and sisterhoods you claim to strengthen.

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posted 02-27-2005 12:14 AM               

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Originally posted by Alum&Advisor:
To all you who think that hazing builds sisterhoods and brotherhoods - tell that to the AKA pledges who died as a result of a hazing incident.

Hazing is a devisive and dangerous practice, both mentally and physically. Those who believe in hazing most often suffer from low self-esteem and lack the fortitude to stand up for decency.

Most Greek organizations were founded to promote the ideals of brotherhood and sisterhood - respect, knowledge, love, strength of mind and character. By hazing, you are rejecting these ideals and missions and the brotherhoods and sisterhoods you claim to strengthen.

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posted 02-27-2005 12:19 AM               

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Originally posted by Alum&Advisor:
To all you who think that hazing builds sisterhoods and brotherhoods - tell that to the AKA pledges who died as a result of a hazing incident.

Hazing is a devisive and dangerous practice, both mentally and physically. Those who believe in hazing most often suffer from low self-esteem and lack the fortitude to stand up for decency.

Most Greek organizations were founded to promote the ideals of brotherhood and sisterhood - respect, knowledge, love, strength of mind and character. By hazing, you are rejecting these ideals and missions and the brotherhoods and sisterhoods you claim to strengthen.

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